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Oracle Public Cloud to offer two Fusion apps

Oracle announced the Oracle Public Cloud on Wednesday, which will initially offer Fusion CRM and HCM. Other options, for Java, a database service and a “social network,” will come later.

SAN FRANCISCO -- Oracle introduced its own public cloud on Wednesday, initially for two Fusion Applications modules.

The Oracle Public Cloud will have the following products available: Fusion Customer Relationship Management (CRM), Fusion Human Capital Management (HCM), Social Network, Java and Oracle Database. However, only the Fusion products will be available initially, with the others to come online in the “near future,” according to the Oracle cloud site.

Oracle CEO Larry Ellison claimed that the Oracle Public Cloud will be both “Platform as a Service [PaaS] and applications as a service.”

“You will be able to take any existing Oracle Database that you have and move it to our cloud,” he said. “Because the database service in the cloud is the same as the database in your data center.”

“And by the way, you can move it back if you want to, and you can move it to the Amazon cloud if you want to,” Ellison added.

How much headway the Oracle Public Cloud will make is questionable. Interviews with the presidents of both the Independent Oracle Users Group (IOUG) and the Oracle Applications Users Group (OAUG) this week indicated that Oracle shops are not yet gung-ho about hosting internal data on a public cloud.

“I see people doing a lot around private clouds,” IOUG President Andrew Flower said. “But I haven’t experienced people taking their production databases into the cloud. I do think there’s enough interest where in certain situations such as test/dev it is considered a real option.”

OAUG President Mark Clark had similar sentiments.

“I think it’s still a new concept; there are security concerns,” he said. “Integration is tough, [especially] when you have your own homegrown systems and then try to integrate them with information that’s in the cloud.”

It will initially be hosted at Oracle data centers in the United States, with pricing on a monthly subscription basis that includes software licensing. The site said that depending on the service, it will either be priced per user per month or per environment per month. Customers in other countries can still subscribe, but Oracle warned that they should check latency and data transmission issues before signing up. The company is unsurprisingly basing its public cloud on its own Exadata and Exalogic machines, according to details available from Oracle’s public cloud site.

Oracle already has its own hosted service with Oracle On Demand. Oracle says its public cloud is different mainly in that applications will now be offered as services on a subscription basis. With Oracle On Demand, customers had to buy their own Oracle software, licenses and support. With the cloud, the subscription price includes that. Oracle said that On Demand will not go away.

Regarding Fusion Applications, the product just became generally available Wednesday. Prior to that, customers in its early adopter program had to use Oracle hosted environments such as On Demand. Now that it’s generally available, Fusion Applications shops have the opportunity to run them in-house; the Oracle Public Cloud looks like a push to keep Fusion Applications hosted in Oracle data centers.

Oracle listed other possible use cases as prototyping and hosting of Java applications in the cloud, quality assurance and test environments and hosted Web services.

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